The UAE had a similar storm 75 years ago. I'm willing to bet this is a 1 off event. It's also 29 degrees in mid April when it's usually 45. And the desert is greener than it's ever been. If this is climate change, please give us more
Ryan Maue is one of the few rational voices on meteorology and climatology. According to him, cloud seeding would have had a negligible impact on the amount of rain.
Thanks for this! In light of this evidence I'm perfectly willing to change my opinion on the matter. The conflicting messages, however, remain a mystery as to what necessitated them.
No, thank you for providing the facts. Opinions on abstract concepts are indeed difficult to change, mine included, but when we talk about facts, you don't argue with them, as far as I'm concerned.
I have been religiously following the weather for about 15 years now. I live in East TX and found GeoengineeringWatch.org which helped to explain some of our crazy weather—huge hail storms, tornadoes, hurricanes, drought, snow storms—and it is manipulated and has been for over 70 years. This ‘new’ project has been taking place in our skies for so long folks hardly notice. The ‘chemtrails’ have been a topic for folks all over the world for well over a decade. We are called ‘conspiracy theorists’ of course for pointing them out—the persistent spreading ‘contrails’ that blanket the sky and change the weather. Electro-magnetic cloud seeding was happening before the huge Houston flood a few years ago, this is documented (check weathermodificationhistory at climateviewer.com)
This new level of propaganda serves a Normalizing function—as if it’s new, isolated and experimental when it fact it has been deployed worldwide decades ago. The documentary ‘The Dimming’ is a good starting point for those unfamiliar with the history and direction of these atmospheric ‘tests’. Also consider document “The Weather as Force Multiplier: Owning The Weather by 2025”
“Weather As A Force Multiplier: Owning The Weather In 2025
1996 USAF paper about weather modification: "The purpose of this paper is to outline a strategy for the use of a future weather modification system to achieve military objectives rather than to provide a detailed technical road map."
Popular among conspiracy theorists.” Ah, the blessed conspiracy label as per usual!
Being a weather forecaster is quite lucrative - spout incoherent blather and you are wrong over half the time but make more blather as to why usually that weather changed and then proceed to proclaim yet another forecast. And you get to keep your job.
What other profession would you keep your job being wrong most of the time?
"Shouldn’t forecasts be more reliable than they were 20 years ago? Because it certainly seems that they aren’t."
They've had the same skill in forecasting for my almost 60 years of life on this here boiling planet, which is to say that after 72 hours, they have no skill at all.
And I point back all the way to James Hansen's stage-craft-y Senate hearing in 1988, where none of his dire predictions came true.
One can go back in time another 20 years and find the failed predictions of Paul Ehrlich and Rachel Carson, who are both still revered as climate icons anyway.
And letting these religious zealots actually tinker with our energy budget from the Sun? I'd say that enters the realm of Crimes Against Humanity.
But satellite data and analytics and stuff! Weren't these supposed to make forecasts more accurate? Or is it yet another case of "We left it to the software and it turned out to be stupider than we expected?"
Uh-huh! All that new tech and they still can't get past 72 hours accurately.
Here in the US, we have "The Weather Channel", which used to be pretty reliable, and then they drank the Climate Change Koolaid, and it's been all propaganda ever since.
And don't get me started on the "Feels Like" upward temperature fiddling.....
Right. Yay for tech that farmers depend on. Oh, I love the "Feels like" -- here we get it in the winter when the wind can make it really feel a lot colder than it would be otherwise. Haven't seen it yet in summer forecasts but maybe I will. It would be stupid, there's a lot less wind during the summer heat period. But what's a little bit more stupid in an ocean of stupid?
Weather - that is 24 to 48 hours - is predicted on the basis of RADAR, weather balloon observation and reports from weather reports from shipping and stations in other Countries. Thus it is usually accurate. Longer range reports are concocted by computer models programmed with the climate change hocus-pocus, so are invariably wrong as the premise… CO2 driven temperature, ‘climate sensitivity’ etc and that weather patterns are changing, is flawed.
Yes a few years ago the UK Met Office talked the Govt into financing a £33 million super computer which could then make complex predictions based on their boiling World climate change models, for long range forecasting.
Its first prediction was a ‘barbecue Summer’, which would be a long warm, dry spell ideal for outdoor dining.
Barbecues in Britain are anticipated more out of hope than expectation, and often eaten indoors out of the rain. That Summer was cold and wet.
Their super machine then predicted a warmer Winter with mostly little snow. There followed three very harsh, cold, snow-filled Winters. Such was the ridicule they abandoned publishing long range forecasts, but asked for a new, bigger, more expensive computer so they could improve their predictions.
The thing was, local councils, transportation relied on the long range forecast and so were entirely unprepared for heavy snow, ice and cold. It cost the economy £billions.
They are so convinced that climate change is ‘real’ that they believe any weather condition that supports the claim, and predict what ‘should’ happen because of climate change, rather than what meteorological data and historic weather patterns indicate will likely happen.
oh, how did I not think of that. I've yet a lot to learn about climate change, clearly. Thanks for helping me along the way, Ken. :D (Simple AND brilliant)
The European Court for Human Rights ruling has caused quite a shitstorm here in Switzerland. Even the centrist parties are openly talking about pulling out of it altogether.
The very idea that the incredibly mild climate of Switzerland is unlivable for a few Omas is totally nuts.
Good to hear. I was quite surprised when I read one of the Omas complaining that she couldn't go out during a heatwave. Heatwave in the Alps? Please. This is what happens when you have nothing to do. I hope the shitstorm gathers force and produces something positive.
My father was part of the British Eighth Army in the Western desert during WWII. He didn’t speak much about the war, but told me few things about living in the desert (he hated it) and one thing he mentioned was “wadi”. A wadi is a wide, often deep channel in the sand formed during times of extreme torrential rainfall. The troops were warned not to camp or park vehicles to take a break in wadis as they could very suddenly and quickly become raging torrents of flood water.
So whether the Dubai flood was or wasn’t cloud seeding gone wrong, it certainly wasn’t climate change as such rain events are not uncommon in desert areas of the North Africa and it has been so for many, many years. That the flooding was so serious is most likely due to a lack of adequate storm drains - perhaps they need a wadi in downtown Dubai.
Good point about the drainage system. A lot of floods that are being attributed to climate change are in fact the result of sub-par infrastructure. Once upon a time this was being talked about. Now, it's all climate change. There were floods in southern Bulgaria last year, along the coast. Everyone screamed climate change while the quieter voices of the knowledgeable pointed out the overconstruction in the resorts there and the inadequate drainage systems. One more by-product of the hysteria: no accountability for grave planning mistakes because it's all climate change.
You are right. In Britain farmers and local authorities used to keep field drainage channels clear and rivers dredged. However they stopped dredging the rivers because: according to EU regulations, the river bed must be treated as toxic waste once removed from the river.
Normally the material was deposited on the river banks to build them up. Councils couldn’t afford the cost of transporting huge amounts of silt away and the fees for handling toxic waste. So rivers became shallower, river bank erosion was repaired.
Farmers were told not to clear out dykes and gulley as this interfered with wild-life. Large electric pumps in Summerset installed to drain the land were switched off to promote flooding to provide habitat for water fowl. Then happened the famous catastrophic flooding of the Somerset Levels a marshy area know for flooding back to the days of the Romans… hence the pumps. This caused a huge amount of damage to people’s homes.
Added to that, more property is being built on known flood plains.
You and me both. Yes, I could probably use some explanation from Ms. Maher, of whose existence I only learned this week but what an existence it must be with this fascinating view of what constitutes truth and how important it is.
Just watched it. Confirmed what I had been thinking for years. Specially liked them mentioning that “the working class” was seldom seen in the climate movement. Too busy I guess working to pay for all the flim flam of the climate agenda.
Irina, we must share the same synchronistic psychic plane-the thought has occurred to me that weather forecasting has not just remained the same in the past 20 years, but gotten worse. I’m still pissed off about a forecast 5 inch snowfall on Superbowl 2015 in America that dumped 2 feet on us. The forecast was in the morning of Superbowl Sunday too. I still have the screenshots. How is it possible to make a prediction that terrible? This happens on a regular basis now. Really puts faith in the current state of climate science, doesn’t it.
Great minds, I guess. And, you know what, I also have a suspicion the forecast's got worse but I wasn't sure I could claim it because I didn't cate about forecasts 20 years ago. I don't know how they manage to get it so wrong, unless they have help from computers, my usual culprits for this sort of thing. :D
The weather is the weather is the weather, also weather and climate are not the same, and humans tell lies.
But whatever, all the problems that humans have created come down to one thing over population, and if those from the Millennial Generation on don’t want to suffer from the same mistakes Baby Boomers and Gen X have created for you to inherit, and so to deal with, heed what Sam Mitchell says👇
Sam Mitchell at Collapse Chronicles — “There is ONE THING we can do to save the planet: Keep your pecker in your pants, and do not let your knickers down. Period. End of story. It will have the added benefit of phasing out coal to zero. Ditto for oil, gas, lithium, copper, cobalt, nickel, plastic, chemicals... I think you get my drift. This is not rocket science.”🤔
The UAE had a similar storm 75 years ago. I'm willing to bet this is a 1 off event. It's also 29 degrees in mid April when it's usually 45. And the desert is greener than it's ever been. If this is climate change, please give us more
Exactly. It boggles the mind that some people interpret more rain in desert regions as a bad thing.
Yeah, but this was a flood, not mere rain. Too much of a good thing, as it were.
Great. If anyone is looking for me, you'll find me under the table in fetal position:(
Ryan Maue is one of the few rational voices on meteorology and climatology. According to him, cloud seeding would have had a negligible impact on the amount of rain.
http://twitter.com/RyanMaue/statuses/1780736405452333090
Thanks for this! In light of this evidence I'm perfectly willing to change my opinion on the matter. The conflicting messages, however, remain a mystery as to what necessitated them.
Few people are able to change their minds. You’re an example to follow. Thank you Irina.
No, thank you for providing the facts. Opinions on abstract concepts are indeed difficult to change, mine included, but when we talk about facts, you don't argue with them, as far as I'm concerned.
As we're fond of saying here in Oklahoma, if you don't like the weather, wait a few minutes, it will change. 🤘😎🤘
I have been religiously following the weather for about 15 years now. I live in East TX and found GeoengineeringWatch.org which helped to explain some of our crazy weather—huge hail storms, tornadoes, hurricanes, drought, snow storms—and it is manipulated and has been for over 70 years. This ‘new’ project has been taking place in our skies for so long folks hardly notice. The ‘chemtrails’ have been a topic for folks all over the world for well over a decade. We are called ‘conspiracy theorists’ of course for pointing them out—the persistent spreading ‘contrails’ that blanket the sky and change the weather. Electro-magnetic cloud seeding was happening before the huge Houston flood a few years ago, this is documented (check weathermodificationhistory at climateviewer.com)
This new level of propaganda serves a Normalizing function—as if it’s new, isolated and experimental when it fact it has been deployed worldwide decades ago. The documentary ‘The Dimming’ is a good starting point for those unfamiliar with the history and direction of these atmospheric ‘tests’. Also consider document “The Weather as Force Multiplier: Owning The Weather by 2025”
“Weather As A Force Multiplier: Owning The Weather In 2025
1996 USAF paper about weather modification: "The purpose of this paper is to outline a strategy for the use of a future weather modification system to achieve military objectives rather than to provide a detailed technical road map."
Popular among conspiracy theorists.” Ah, the blessed conspiracy label as per usual!
https://archive.org/details/WeatherAsAForceMultiplier
Being a weather forecaster is quite lucrative - spout incoherent blather and you are wrong over half the time but make more blather as to why usually that weather changed and then proceed to proclaim yet another forecast. And you get to keep your job.
What other profession would you keep your job being wrong most of the time?
Commodity price forecaster? :D
"Shouldn’t forecasts be more reliable than they were 20 years ago? Because it certainly seems that they aren’t."
They've had the same skill in forecasting for my almost 60 years of life on this here boiling planet, which is to say that after 72 hours, they have no skill at all.
And I point back all the way to James Hansen's stage-craft-y Senate hearing in 1988, where none of his dire predictions came true.
One can go back in time another 20 years and find the failed predictions of Paul Ehrlich and Rachel Carson, who are both still revered as climate icons anyway.
And letting these religious zealots actually tinker with our energy budget from the Sun? I'd say that enters the realm of Crimes Against Humanity.
But satellite data and analytics and stuff! Weren't these supposed to make forecasts more accurate? Or is it yet another case of "We left it to the software and it turned out to be stupider than we expected?"
Uh-huh! All that new tech and they still can't get past 72 hours accurately.
Here in the US, we have "The Weather Channel", which used to be pretty reliable, and then they drank the Climate Change Koolaid, and it's been all propaganda ever since.
And don't get me started on the "Feels Like" upward temperature fiddling.....
Right. Yay for tech that farmers depend on. Oh, I love the "Feels like" -- here we get it in the winter when the wind can make it really feel a lot colder than it would be otherwise. Haven't seen it yet in summer forecasts but maybe I will. It would be stupid, there's a lot less wind during the summer heat period. But what's a little bit more stupid in an ocean of stupid?
Brilliant. And oh so essential. Follow the reason in our Age of Unreason. Forget the science. It’s become alchemy.
It’s obvious why the weather forecasts are so bad. Climate change makes it harder to predict the weather. Very simple. 😉
Weather - that is 24 to 48 hours - is predicted on the basis of RADAR, weather balloon observation and reports from weather reports from shipping and stations in other Countries. Thus it is usually accurate. Longer range reports are concocted by computer models programmed with the climate change hocus-pocus, so are invariably wrong as the premise… CO2 driven temperature, ‘climate sensitivity’ etc and that weather patterns are changing, is flawed.
Hah, so I was right about the software in the comment above. They did leave it to the software to forecast.
Yes a few years ago the UK Met Office talked the Govt into financing a £33 million super computer which could then make complex predictions based on their boiling World climate change models, for long range forecasting.
Its first prediction was a ‘barbecue Summer’, which would be a long warm, dry spell ideal for outdoor dining.
Barbecues in Britain are anticipated more out of hope than expectation, and often eaten indoors out of the rain. That Summer was cold and wet.
Their super machine then predicted a warmer Winter with mostly little snow. There followed three very harsh, cold, snow-filled Winters. Such was the ridicule they abandoned publishing long range forecasts, but asked for a new, bigger, more expensive computer so they could improve their predictions.
The thing was, local councils, transportation relied on the long range forecast and so were entirely unprepared for heavy snow, ice and cold. It cost the economy £billions.
They are so convinced that climate change is ‘real’ that they believe any weather condition that supports the claim, and predict what ‘should’ happen because of climate change, rather than what meteorological data and historic weather patterns indicate will likely happen.
This is beyond ridiculous.
oh, how did I not think of that. I've yet a lot to learn about climate change, clearly. Thanks for helping me along the way, Ken. :D (Simple AND brilliant)
The European Court for Human Rights ruling has caused quite a shitstorm here in Switzerland. Even the centrist parties are openly talking about pulling out of it altogether.
The very idea that the incredibly mild climate of Switzerland is unlivable for a few Omas is totally nuts.
Good to hear. I was quite surprised when I read one of the Omas complaining that she couldn't go out during a heatwave. Heatwave in the Alps? Please. This is what happens when you have nothing to do. I hope the shitstorm gathers force and produces something positive.
My father was part of the British Eighth Army in the Western desert during WWII. He didn’t speak much about the war, but told me few things about living in the desert (he hated it) and one thing he mentioned was “wadi”. A wadi is a wide, often deep channel in the sand formed during times of extreme torrential rainfall. The troops were warned not to camp or park vehicles to take a break in wadis as they could very suddenly and quickly become raging torrents of flood water.
So whether the Dubai flood was or wasn’t cloud seeding gone wrong, it certainly wasn’t climate change as such rain events are not uncommon in desert areas of the North Africa and it has been so for many, many years. That the flooding was so serious is most likely due to a lack of adequate storm drains - perhaps they need a wadi in downtown Dubai.
Good point about the drainage system. A lot of floods that are being attributed to climate change are in fact the result of sub-par infrastructure. Once upon a time this was being talked about. Now, it's all climate change. There were floods in southern Bulgaria last year, along the coast. Everyone screamed climate change while the quieter voices of the knowledgeable pointed out the overconstruction in the resorts there and the inadequate drainage systems. One more by-product of the hysteria: no accountability for grave planning mistakes because it's all climate change.
You are right. In Britain farmers and local authorities used to keep field drainage channels clear and rivers dredged. However they stopped dredging the rivers because: according to EU regulations, the river bed must be treated as toxic waste once removed from the river.
Normally the material was deposited on the river banks to build them up. Councils couldn’t afford the cost of transporting huge amounts of silt away and the fees for handling toxic waste. So rivers became shallower, river bank erosion was repaired.
Farmers were told not to clear out dykes and gulley as this interfered with wild-life. Large electric pumps in Summerset installed to drain the land were switched off to promote flooding to provide habitat for water fowl. Then happened the famous catastrophic flooding of the Somerset Levels a marshy area know for flooding back to the days of the Romans… hence the pumps. This caused a huge amount of damage to people’s homes.
Added to that, more property is being built on known flood plains.
In truth the climate crisis is Manmade.
The extent of stupidity... Worse still, there is zero accountability for this, I expect.
I don’t know about you, but when I see the word experts in the corporate media I know that what’s next is reliably bullshit.
Maybe our NPR lady could help you understand how dangerous the truth actually is.
You and me both. Yes, I could probably use some explanation from Ms. Maher, of whose existence I only learned this week but what an existence it must be with this fascinating view of what constitutes truth and how important it is.
Watch this movie. It's well done and long overdue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A24fWmNA6lM
Just watched it. Confirmed what I had been thinking for years. Specially liked them mentioning that “the working class” was seldom seen in the climate movement. Too busy I guess working to pay for all the flim flam of the climate agenda.
It is excellently done and, as you say, long overdue. I do hope millions watch it.
Irina, we must share the same synchronistic psychic plane-the thought has occurred to me that weather forecasting has not just remained the same in the past 20 years, but gotten worse. I’m still pissed off about a forecast 5 inch snowfall on Superbowl 2015 in America that dumped 2 feet on us. The forecast was in the morning of Superbowl Sunday too. I still have the screenshots. How is it possible to make a prediction that terrible? This happens on a regular basis now. Really puts faith in the current state of climate science, doesn’t it.
Great minds, I guess. And, you know what, I also have a suspicion the forecast's got worse but I wasn't sure I could claim it because I didn't cate about forecasts 20 years ago. I don't know how they manage to get it so wrong, unless they have help from computers, my usual culprits for this sort of thing. :D
Love the True Blood clip.
A truly iconic scene in modern television entertainment.
The weather is the weather is the weather, also weather and climate are not the same, and humans tell lies.
But whatever, all the problems that humans have created come down to one thing over population, and if those from the Millennial Generation on don’t want to suffer from the same mistakes Baby Boomers and Gen X have created for you to inherit, and so to deal with, heed what Sam Mitchell says👇
Sam Mitchell at Collapse Chronicles — “There is ONE THING we can do to save the planet: Keep your pecker in your pants, and do not let your knickers down. Period. End of story. It will have the added benefit of phasing out coal to zero. Ditto for oil, gas, lithium, copper, cobalt, nickel, plastic, chemicals... I think you get my drift. This is not rocket science.”🤔