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Tim Tuggle's avatar

I am going to do my best to ingrain this thinking into the minds of my six grandchildren: "...the fact of there being debate on a topic does not invariably mean that one — or more — of the positions expressed in the debate are anything other than a) wishful thinking, b) a demonstration of derangement, c) a revelation of ignorance on the topic, or d) all of the above."

Thank you.

Kevin Fedon's avatar

To your point, there is a debate about men being women…in some circles!

Icahnoclast: The Spike's avatar

The same circles, as it happens, that 'believe' in catastrophic anthropogenic climate change, looooooooooooong Covid and the Religion of Peace.

John Bowman's avatar

Yes, among people who say those of us who question Manmade climate change are anti-science.

Irina Slav's avatar

Case in point!

Irina Slav's avatar

That's a lesson I had to learn the hard way, so you will be doing them a great favour.

winston's avatar

One addition to the penultimate paragraph, an additional explanation might: f) an attempt to relieve the mentally defective from some or all of their money.

Karloff's avatar

So, when will the bobbleheads in the UK ban green colored ice cars & trucks?

😂🤣😂

Gregory Olsen's avatar

No, no, no. Regulate the color of green.

Neural Foundry's avatar

That closng point about debates not validating positions hits hard. Just because shipping companies are discussingbattery-powered cargo ships doesnt mean the physics suddenly work better. I watched a boardroom once spend hours debating whether to implement a tech solution that literally violated thermodynamics, and the seriousness of the debate somehow made people forget basic constraints.

Kevin Fedon's avatar

… without using too much space.

Icahnoclast: The Spike's avatar

Seriously gentlemen, let's get unserious.

Karloff's avatar

If any of the board members need work, they should consider moving to Brussels.

Irina Slav's avatar

Sounds like a debate for debate's sake.

Icahnoclast: The Spike's avatar

благодаря ти, Irina, for once again intuiting the scrambled contents of my brain, unscrambling same and stating clearly and coherently in electrons what I wanted to say.

Irina Slav's avatar

It's my pleasure. Excellent Bulgarian there. :)

Icahnoclast: The Spike's avatar

Thank you. Been studying for minutes.

Gregory Olsen's avatar

d) All of the above.

How can I be overdrawn? I still have checks in my check book!

The innumeracy and cold-hearted insanity of the Klimate Klub never fails to astound me.

Karloff's avatar

Was the overdrawn statement made by the Bobblehead CFO? 🤡💰🤡

John Bowman's avatar

Well the Green madness continues apace here in Bonkers Broken Britain: no failure, no bankruptcy, no amount of evidence to the contrary that the only certain outcome of Net Zero is a destroyed economy, can push Mad Miliband off course. Latest wheeze - £120 000 subsidy per vehicle to businesses swapping to BEV lorries. Since batteries for big trucks are about 3 to 4 tonnes, and since there is a weight limit of 44 tonnes this means each unit will carry about 4 tonnes less load. This in turn means more vehicles will be required = more traffic, higher haulage costs passed on to consumers.

And don’t ask where will the electricity come from and the absence of sufficiently robust low voltage supply to charge these huge batteries.

£50 billion is to be set aside for this. That’s chicken-feed compared to the total cost of Net Zero over the next 25 years, of £4.7 trillion according to the National Energy System Operator (NESO) – a Government quango responsible for Britain’s energy systems. UK annual GDP is £3 trillion.

Still, a £trillion here, a £trillion there - soon we’ll be talking real money.

Irina Slav's avatar

I have to admit, the ingenuity of the Milibandits keeps amazing me. So much inventiveness, concentrated on all the wrong things!

John Bowman's avatar

“Milibandits”. Nice one. 😊

Waspi, Kevin G's avatar

Ms. Slav,

Congratulations on distilling the myriad of planet saving schemes down into its essence, true genius!

"I think we can all agree that the recent past has provided us with ample evidence that the fact of there being debate on a topic does not invariably mean that one — or more — of the positions expressed in the debate are anything other than a) wishful thinking, b) a demonstration of derangement, c) a revelation of ignorance on the topic, or d) all of the above."

Jeff Chestnut's avatar

Indeed the first couple of weeks are interesting if not entertaining. With the green movement zealots on the edge of the cliff and the realists pushing them to reality, the world continues to function. The sun will cume up again and some will have electricity overnight while some may be without. Policies matter and bad decisions are the root of problems. The rest of 2026 is going to be exciting.

Great job pointing out key issues.

Irina Slav's avatar

Thank you. They just sit there, waiting to be pointed out, and there are so many of them.

Eric Novak's avatar

It’s two weeks in to the new year, but I will wish you a good 2026 anyway. As a technical worker at one of the largest energy research labs in the US Dept. of Energy system, I must recommend keeping your antennae attuned to fusion research and development in both the US and EU. The big push was announced in 2025 at the US Dept. of Energy, and Trump’s Truth Media Co. has been fused with a fusion R&D enterprise. Most in the private and public sectors are skeptically optimistic a working tokamak will be tested in the next few years.

Irina Slav's avatar

You have a good 2026, too! I do keep an eye on fusion, mostly in my Oilprice articles. Skeptically optimistic sounds like the healthy attitude to have. The Chinese did some breakthrough recently, I remember, but it's still a rather long way away, that working tokamak. I haven't seen any news from the ITER project recently, so I wouldn't be counting on the Europeans to make any progress any time soon. They're too busy with other things, after all.

les's avatar

Who would have thought that reality would make some propositions untenable?

Jessica Wilkinson's avatar

Maybe it’s a resurgence of British Racing Green? As more petrolheads go EV, they may want to retain a nostalgic nod to heritage.

Declan Mercer's avatar

Let's not sugarcoat it please... those huge write downs by BP and Ford are tuition fees they had to pay to learn a fundamental lesson that physics could've taught them for free. You can't just turn energy density into a asset to be bought and sold. The Clean Energy Boom your'e talking about isn't really about clean energy, it's a Capex Boom followed by an OpEx Hangover.