About a year ago — and my, does time fly — I penned a post I called Outrageous portions that was inspired or rather prompted by a revelation that a staple Bulgarian dish, moussaka*, has the third-highest carbon footprint in Europe.
The "reports" (in Bloomberg and elsewhere) about how FAO (UN Food and Agriculture Organization) has released a report during COP28 that concludes we must eat less meat are remarkable since that report says exactly the opposite.
"The FAO said that diet changes are among the lesser effective ways to curb warming from livestock/meat." Dr. Frank Mitloehner, UC Davis
I read the COPsters statement on food and there was nothing specific about anything except creating a safety net for the poorest members of society as they transition the food system. No mention of meat or anything else specific, really.
So many opportunities for unintended consequences to arrive. Meantime pork prices are so low (in the US at least) that the Chinese owners are closing hog farms and packing plants here. Either the Chinese are taking the move away from meat very seriously or there's possibly a recession going on that's not getting much attention. Meanwhile we're enjoying our smoked pork ribs while we can. After all those wood pellets put a lot of smoke in the air.......
A lovely early morning rant, and one I have to say I agree with. The hubris of the gathered thousands whose sudden whimsical inspirations run counter to the history of our species and planet will not last. People will get angry as they start to suffer and then all the lords of the climate will fall still screaming about the misinformation that dares to challenge them. A good old fashion bloodletting as befell their ilk in times gone by. Not even the almighty Xi will mess with pork in China.
Irina - eat 2 of those sandwiches and grab some yogurt!
These fools that want to limit our very existence by removing everything we consume or use are simply evil. It’s all part of the WEF plan to reduce the population of the earth. What we need to quit is our tolerance, and even acceptance, of these lunatics.
Myself, I’m looking forward to some grilled beef this weekend and some smoked turkey over the holidays - all cooked without using any electricity.
By the way - when the greenies push themselves back into living like cavemen they will discover cave men ate meat from their hunting skills - maybe greenies should reconsider their skills before supporting another greenie ‘good idea’!!
Yogurt, yes! I was just reminded by another reader about the benefits of ice cream, too. Dairy for the win.
Your last remark reminds me of a vegan lady I know. We chatted once about food and survival and she said "Oh, I'm perfectly capable of killing and eating a chicken if I must, to survive. But I feel fine eating vegan right now." This kind of vegans have my respect. The rest are free to freak out at the facts of life and survival.
Meat and the essential amino-acids it contains (all in one bite) is vital for the proper development and replacement of brain tissue - clearly the anti-meat brigade aren’t eating enough. But this always amuses me... “... it is that we are eating unsustainably...” as well as the term “sustainable farming”. Farming is a technology invented a few thousand years ago to provide a sustainable food source to ensure sustainable eating. This is why we are not all scratching around in the dirt digging up roots and chasing wild animals all over the landscape - and mostly dying off particularly in Winter.
(The loonies have a strange interpretation for the word sustainable. Wind and solar power are supposedly sustainable energy, but their output is unsustainable.)
The World population has doubled since 1959, yet famines (except those created by war) no longer happen and more people are fed per acre of farmed land than ever before. Sounds rather sustainable to me.
We are told to avoid processed foods, but plant-based fake-foods are heavily processed.
My theory: insects will be genetically modified creatures, somewhat like big caterpillars (which are voracious eating machines), but not destined to metamorphose just eat and get fat. These will munch their way through genetically modified plants in a closed controlled environment until ready for harvest. Once harvested they will be processed to extract animal protein which will then be formulated with flavour, colouring, minerals, vitamins, etc to factory produce ‘meat’ formed into various shapes of things we know and love. Taste will be a short term issue as newborns won’t know what real meat tastes like.
Mind games are afoot. Spreading the rumour that we shall have to eat insects, revolts most people. But then they come and say, just kidding, you won’t ever actually have to eat creepy-crawlies, it will look and taste just like ordinary meat AND unlike ordinary meat which is a big cancer causer, the new meat will be good for you. Big sigh of relief and people fooled into compliance again.
Other genetically modified plants will also be grown in controlled environments to be harvested and processed with various additives and formed to ressemble vegetables and fruits.
We shall then dine on meat that has never walked on legs, vegetable that have never seen a field, and fruit that has never seen a tree. Food will be produced in large factories owned and operated by a handful of big corporations hand in glove with our new lords and masters of the reset World. With farming no more, growing foods at home probably banned, our food supply can be easily controlled. Then they will control our energy use, our mobility and our foods and of course water.
People will eat anything if the propaganda is right.
Low fat, healthy spreads, lowering cholesterol and saving you from a heart attack: vegetable matter macerated with water and hydrochloride acid, the fatty acid gray gloop that results has yellow colour, flavour, vitamins, thickening agents added and then loaded into tubs. (If they add blue or green colour and perfumes it is shower gel. Which well-known market leader company makes both?)
Butter - killer - cream separated from cows’ milk, mechanically churned, maybe a bit of salt - delicious, but ‘unhealthy’
In England there is a variant of the Greek dish... we call it mouse-aka - no prizes for guessing what’s in it. So insects? Bring it on. 😁
You should sell this horrible vision to a movie company to turn it into a horror movie script. Now I've lost my appetite for probably five whole hours! :D
Good point about farming and it being unsustainable. Hilarious, as you so eloquently point out. Yet what the sustainability brigade seems to want is to go back to miediaeval farming practices but with added organic fertilisers because NPK and cousins are very, very bad.
Let’s hope just the script of a horror movie and not reality to come. I wonder how they imagine the move to organic fertilisers will go when they have banned meat and killed off all the producers of said fertilisers?
I was scrolling and thought I saw chitlins, which I don't eat but have been told are wonderful. Then I reread the post. What a revoltin development this is. Good thing I'm 67 and my blood line says 500-750 more weeks for me. Those WEF people are despicable. Why does it seem they're winning?
It is vital for life on Earth. Which only makes its demonisation all the more impressive. It went from "normal but too much" to "evil, evil CO2, every last molecule". Amazing, really.
I attended a (rare opportunity for a prestigious) paleontology course online a few years ago.
We reviewed the entire fossil record of human evolution, wit some emphasis on the recent discoveries in Denisova.
The overall most important takeaway that I got from the course was that, somewhat surprisingly, the fossils indicate that the first thing that changed was that our ancestors came down from the trees and began walking erect. The next thing that changed was that our guts and our teeth became smaller, with the inescapable conclusion that we were beginning to eat meat, richer in energy and nutrients than plants. And then the third thing that followed only after the first two was that our brains became bigger and bigger and we became smarter. Why? Because if you want to eat meat, you have to be smart enough to catch it.
In recent years, technology has made most people's lives to be an awful lot easier than the previous centuries. But now we have new dilemmas, including an explosion of human population and of available foods, and a massive increase in maladies touched off from obesity and especially the consumption of refined sugar (not only diabetes and heart diseases but also cancers are directly correlated with refined sugar consumption.)
It seems now that after several score of years where the poor have been eating more than the rich, we are now return to nature's preference of natural selection (if indeed we ever left off), where smarter and wiser people will again have a better chance of survival in the future.
I don't think we ever left off, John. Natural selection is like gravity, there's no escape. Might take different forms under different circumstances. What an interesting topic for weekend pondering. Thank you!
You nailed it - it's a "war on energy density," even though energy density is the key to civilized life. I stay very healthy on a diet of (mostly) energy-dense animal flesh, especially lean beef, which my research says is the closest thing to a perfect food.
I think there’s a substantial amount of support for what I will refer to as the F***k Off political party. Collect my personal data without consent, FO...tell me what I can/can not eat or drink, FO. Drag queen story hour with my children, FO. Wars without a congressional declaration, FO. Ad infinitum....
I think you are missing the point Irina, it's not a war on energy density, as I'm pretty sure that EAT doesn't have any idea what that even means. It is a war on people, and the goal, which has been clearly enunciated by WEF and others of this ilk, is to reduce the population full stop.
As always, the critical tell is if those prescribing these solutions to their perceived problems are following the new rules, then perhaps we should at least consider a deeper investigation. But I suspect that the 70,000 folks who traveled to CPO 28 ate pretty well, lots more steak and very little in the way of crickets.
That said, a butter and bacon sandwich sounds quite opulent, I will say that!
I might have a tendency to overestimate people sometimes, I admit. This might be one of those cases although it pains me to consider it. I mean, if the Bad Guys are so Bad, I'd feel better if they were the least bit intelligent and informed, you know? :D
These "net-zero" people aren't insane, they are evil. They claim they are trying to save people because of ultra scary emissions, but they also say the world would be ideal with only 1 billion people, so their ultimate goal: 7 billion of us have to go. If the masses want to put their lives in these demons hands, go for it, I will drive my ICE car and consume as much meat as physically possible. All while trying to lose four pounds by the end of the year - did someone say Carnivore Diet? God bless you Irina for the great work that you do - keep up the good fight!
Thank you, Bevv, for being here! I know exactly what you mean about driving and meat eating. I feel the same way. I felt like buying a truck the other day while reading the latest from CP28. An actual truck, I mean, the huge big kind. Childish, for sure, but that's what an overdose of transition propaganda does. Stay healthy and happy!
Thank you.
The "reports" (in Bloomberg and elsewhere) about how FAO (UN Food and Agriculture Organization) has released a report during COP28 that concludes we must eat less meat are remarkable since that report says exactly the opposite.
"The FAO said that diet changes are among the lesser effective ways to curb warming from livestock/meat." Dr. Frank Mitloehner, UC Davis
Yet Bloomberg and others persist - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-26/eat-less-meat-is-message-for-rich-world-in-food-s-first-net-zero-plan
Two items of interest:
https://clear.ucdavis.edu/blog/fao-report-clears-path-food-security-climate-solutions-animal-agriculture
https://biobeef.faculty.ucdavis.edu/2023/12/11/collaboration-between-scientists-producers-critical-to-mitigate-anticipated-increase-in-livestock-sector-ghg-emissions/
I read the COPsters statement on food and there was nothing specific about anything except creating a safety net for the poorest members of society as they transition the food system. No mention of meat or anything else specific, really.
So many opportunities for unintended consequences to arrive. Meantime pork prices are so low (in the US at least) that the Chinese owners are closing hog farms and packing plants here. Either the Chinese are taking the move away from meat very seriously or there's possibly a recession going on that's not getting much attention. Meanwhile we're enjoying our smoked pork ribs while we can. After all those wood pellets put a lot of smoke in the air.......
Win-win with the pork prices and the pellets. Here, pork prices are going up. Not sure why but I've noticed it the past couple of weeks.
A lovely early morning rant, and one I have to say I agree with. The hubris of the gathered thousands whose sudden whimsical inspirations run counter to the history of our species and planet will not last. People will get angry as they start to suffer and then all the lords of the climate will fall still screaming about the misinformation that dares to challenge them. A good old fashion bloodletting as befell their ilk in times gone by. Not even the almighty Xi will mess with pork in China.
What a poetic way to put it, thank you.
Irina - eat 2 of those sandwiches and grab some yogurt!
These fools that want to limit our very existence by removing everything we consume or use are simply evil. It’s all part of the WEF plan to reduce the population of the earth. What we need to quit is our tolerance, and even acceptance, of these lunatics.
Myself, I’m looking forward to some grilled beef this weekend and some smoked turkey over the holidays - all cooked without using any electricity.
By the way - when the greenies push themselves back into living like cavemen they will discover cave men ate meat from their hunting skills - maybe greenies should reconsider their skills before supporting another greenie ‘good idea’!!
Yogurt, yes! I was just reminded by another reader about the benefits of ice cream, too. Dairy for the win.
Your last remark reminds me of a vegan lady I know. We chatted once about food and survival and she said "Oh, I'm perfectly capable of killing and eating a chicken if I must, to survive. But I feel fine eating vegan right now." This kind of vegans have my respect. The rest are free to freak out at the facts of life and survival.
There are probably just too many do-gooders in the world that are just full of chitin.
Meat and the essential amino-acids it contains (all in one bite) is vital for the proper development and replacement of brain tissue - clearly the anti-meat brigade aren’t eating enough. But this always amuses me... “... it is that we are eating unsustainably...” as well as the term “sustainable farming”. Farming is a technology invented a few thousand years ago to provide a sustainable food source to ensure sustainable eating. This is why we are not all scratching around in the dirt digging up roots and chasing wild animals all over the landscape - and mostly dying off particularly in Winter.
(The loonies have a strange interpretation for the word sustainable. Wind and solar power are supposedly sustainable energy, but their output is unsustainable.)
The World population has doubled since 1959, yet famines (except those created by war) no longer happen and more people are fed per acre of farmed land than ever before. Sounds rather sustainable to me.
We are told to avoid processed foods, but plant-based fake-foods are heavily processed.
My theory: insects will be genetically modified creatures, somewhat like big caterpillars (which are voracious eating machines), but not destined to metamorphose just eat and get fat. These will munch their way through genetically modified plants in a closed controlled environment until ready for harvest. Once harvested they will be processed to extract animal protein which will then be formulated with flavour, colouring, minerals, vitamins, etc to factory produce ‘meat’ formed into various shapes of things we know and love. Taste will be a short term issue as newborns won’t know what real meat tastes like.
Mind games are afoot. Spreading the rumour that we shall have to eat insects, revolts most people. But then they come and say, just kidding, you won’t ever actually have to eat creepy-crawlies, it will look and taste just like ordinary meat AND unlike ordinary meat which is a big cancer causer, the new meat will be good for you. Big sigh of relief and people fooled into compliance again.
Other genetically modified plants will also be grown in controlled environments to be harvested and processed with various additives and formed to ressemble vegetables and fruits.
We shall then dine on meat that has never walked on legs, vegetable that have never seen a field, and fruit that has never seen a tree. Food will be produced in large factories owned and operated by a handful of big corporations hand in glove with our new lords and masters of the reset World. With farming no more, growing foods at home probably banned, our food supply can be easily controlled. Then they will control our energy use, our mobility and our foods and of course water.
People will eat anything if the propaganda is right.
Low fat, healthy spreads, lowering cholesterol and saving you from a heart attack: vegetable matter macerated with water and hydrochloride acid, the fatty acid gray gloop that results has yellow colour, flavour, vitamins, thickening agents added and then loaded into tubs. (If they add blue or green colour and perfumes it is shower gel. Which well-known market leader company makes both?)
Butter - killer - cream separated from cows’ milk, mechanically churned, maybe a bit of salt - delicious, but ‘unhealthy’
In England there is a variant of the Greek dish... we call it mouse-aka - no prizes for guessing what’s in it. So insects? Bring it on. 😁
You should sell this horrible vision to a movie company to turn it into a horror movie script. Now I've lost my appetite for probably five whole hours! :D
Good point about farming and it being unsustainable. Hilarious, as you so eloquently point out. Yet what the sustainability brigade seems to want is to go back to miediaeval farming practices but with added organic fertilisers because NPK and cousins are very, very bad.
Let’s hope just the script of a horror movie and not reality to come. I wonder how they imagine the move to organic fertilisers will go when they have banned meat and killed off all the producers of said fertilisers?
Excellent question and yet another piece of evidence that a lot of people don't know what they're doing.
I was scrolling and thought I saw chitlins, which I don't eat but have been told are wonderful. Then I reread the post. What a revoltin development this is. Good thing I'm 67 and my blood line says 500-750 more weeks for me. Those WEF people are despicable. Why does it seem they're winning?
It seems they're winning because they control all the large media.
Likewise on chitlins but if I'm forced to choose between them and chitin, I say bring on the guts!
There is virtually nothing that can be taken seriously from the IPCC or COP28 etc.... any group that is founded on lies will only continue to lie...
How is it that vegetables etc “evolved” to require CO2 up to 1600 ppm to reach optimal plant growth if CO2 wasn’t that high at some point...
The methane produced by ruminating animals cows etc is produced from
Plants that the cows ate and so as they captured airborne CO2 in growing... so it’s recycling carbon not producing more.. and
Crickets will respire CO2 too and require a carbon based source for food .. plants no doubt, same as cows..
CO2 is good.. not bad ..
It is vital for life on Earth. Which only makes its demonisation all the more impressive. It went from "normal but too much" to "evil, evil CO2, every last molecule". Amazing, really.
I attended a (rare opportunity for a prestigious) paleontology course online a few years ago.
We reviewed the entire fossil record of human evolution, wit some emphasis on the recent discoveries in Denisova.
The overall most important takeaway that I got from the course was that, somewhat surprisingly, the fossils indicate that the first thing that changed was that our ancestors came down from the trees and began walking erect. The next thing that changed was that our guts and our teeth became smaller, with the inescapable conclusion that we were beginning to eat meat, richer in energy and nutrients than plants. And then the third thing that followed only after the first two was that our brains became bigger and bigger and we became smarter. Why? Because if you want to eat meat, you have to be smart enough to catch it.
In recent years, technology has made most people's lives to be an awful lot easier than the previous centuries. But now we have new dilemmas, including an explosion of human population and of available foods, and a massive increase in maladies touched off from obesity and especially the consumption of refined sugar (not only diabetes and heart diseases but also cancers are directly correlated with refined sugar consumption.)
It seems now that after several score of years where the poor have been eating more than the rich, we are now return to nature's preference of natural selection (if indeed we ever left off), where smarter and wiser people will again have a better chance of survival in the future.
I don't think we ever left off, John. Natural selection is like gravity, there's no escape. Might take different forms under different circumstances. What an interesting topic for weekend pondering. Thank you!
You nailed it - it's a "war on energy density," even though energy density is the key to civilized life. I stay very healthy on a diet of (mostly) energy-dense animal flesh, especially lean beef, which my research says is the closest thing to a perfect food.
The vegetarian movement never took hold in Texas.
I wonder why. :D A friend from Texas once sent me pictures of local cattle. Magnificent animals! Delicious, too, I have no doubt.
I think there’s a substantial amount of support for what I will refer to as the F***k Off political party. Collect my personal data without consent, FO...tell me what I can/can not eat or drink, FO. Drag queen story hour with my children, FO. Wars without a congressional declaration, FO. Ad infinitum....
It's growing internationally, too. IFO.
I think you are missing the point Irina, it's not a war on energy density, as I'm pretty sure that EAT doesn't have any idea what that even means. It is a war on people, and the goal, which has been clearly enunciated by WEF and others of this ilk, is to reduce the population full stop.
As always, the critical tell is if those prescribing these solutions to their perceived problems are following the new rules, then perhaps we should at least consider a deeper investigation. But I suspect that the 70,000 folks who traveled to CPO 28 ate pretty well, lots more steak and very little in the way of crickets.
That said, a butter and bacon sandwich sounds quite opulent, I will say that!
I might have a tendency to overestimate people sometimes, I admit. This might be one of those cases although it pains me to consider it. I mean, if the Bad Guys are so Bad, I'd feel better if they were the least bit intelligent and informed, you know? :D
Funny thing, nobody reported on the COP28 menus.
These "net-zero" people aren't insane, they are evil. They claim they are trying to save people because of ultra scary emissions, but they also say the world would be ideal with only 1 billion people, so their ultimate goal: 7 billion of us have to go. If the masses want to put their lives in these demons hands, go for it, I will drive my ICE car and consume as much meat as physically possible. All while trying to lose four pounds by the end of the year - did someone say Carnivore Diet? God bless you Irina for the great work that you do - keep up the good fight!
Thank you, Bevv, for being here! I know exactly what you mean about driving and meat eating. I feel the same way. I felt like buying a truck the other day while reading the latest from CP28. An actual truck, I mean, the huge big kind. Childish, for sure, but that's what an overdose of transition propaganda does. Stay healthy and happy!
Put some peanut butter on that bacon and butter sandwich. 😉 Take it from someone weight training for decades.
Thank you! I haven't tried it with bacon but it sounds delicious.
Here's a suggestion: Make sheep & cows out of plants. We could use a 3D printer!
Actually we DO make sheep & cows out of plants even now!
(Actually, God has taken care of that, but that's another discussion.)
Plants -> Sheep / Cows -> Humans.