A federal agency in the U.S. this week suggested that gas stoves are bad for your health and, worse, your children's health. The claims cited in the study reported by every media outlet were quickly debunked but a suspicion remained that authorities have put gas stoves in their sights. As an active user of gas for cooking for about 20 years now, I'm never going back to electric. What about you?
I live in a small suburban soviet next to the greater Soviet of Seattle, State of Washington USA. Seattle already bans gas and other fossil fuels in new buildings.
I will cling to my gas stove. One advantage of gas cooking is that it works when the power is out. Power outages here are caused primarily by trees which are a Protected Species. Protected by the same crowd that bans gas stoves.
I have cooked with gas all my life. As long as you have a good stove hood for venting, what’s the issue? This is simply another attack by the greens/woke on fossil fuels and just another wedge of government coming into our homes and dictating how to live our lives. No doubt they are coming for dishwashers next. And so forget about having a fireplace.
There is no issue. These same people have been forcing us to take dangerous gene therapy injections that have caused excess deaths to spike 40% above normal in young and healthy populations end of 2022. This is all about preventing grid defection with their enforced wind & solar grid being so expensive and unreliable.
This is the other thing a lot of people are missing in this whole discussion RE shifting everything to all electric. How will restaurants handle this "transition?" At least here in the US, electric grills, griddles, fryers, are not terribly common. There's a large used and new market for gas-powered ones. If/when comparable electric products arrive the costs for restaurant owners will be immense. Restaurants are already run on thin margins and restaurants employ a lot of employees.
Just another tactic in the tiresome campaign to demonize oil and gas. I wanted to have a gas stovetop in our house but there was a gas line issue and we ended up getting an induction cooktop. I have to say that induction is very good as well, and I'm as happy with that as I would have been with gas. But replacing a cracked induction cooktop is a very expensive exercise!
Ironically we were able to hook up our barbeque to our domestic gas line; the builder simply did not install a port for the gas cooktop and by the time we discovered that it was too late to change
There is much more to this stove ban than meets the eye. This ban on Natural Gas services to residential & commercial buildings is well advanced in many jurisdictions in America (i.e. California, Seattle, New York City), in Europe and Australia. This is insidious and devious. The indoor air pollution is just another fake excuse they've made up just as Covid, the Ukraine War and Climate Change were for other nefarious purposes. Don't believe a word these lying cretins say, there is ALWAYS a back story.
You see what this is all about. They are foisting upon us this Malthusian Agenda of a World powered by Wind & Solar, which is impractical, horrendously expensive and will result in extreme deprivation, including inability for the Middle Class to afford a home. But these cretins face a dilemma. There is a solution for home owners. An NG powered small home CHP generator of ~2kwe output, which could be ICE or Fuel Cell, with a small 5-10kwh battery pack, 25kw inverter, and would supply all home electricity, heat & hot water. Quite economical now with battery prices having fallen. There are similar larger units for commercial buildings/business, i.e. Bloom Boxes. Which are growing in popularity already.
So what will you see in their Dystopian future. Extreme high electricity prices, constant power shortages, blackouts, forced rationing, no power for BEVs (i.e. no travel allowed), no air conditioning, hot water or heat by edict. Just pushing the population to live in pods in their Great Reset, "you will own nothing" game plan. All suburban areas and buildings owned by the inherited wealth Aristocracy. What they can't allow is Grid Defection. People will want to opt out of the Power Grid with their natural gas connection. So that just can't be allowed. The underlying motive for this is SINISTER. Believe it.
As usual these nonsensical proposals will hurt the poorest amongst us the most. If you’re a government employee with a cushy job, you’ll swap out your gas range for an electric one. No problem, even if it wouldn’t be your preference. But it you’re some poor bloke and his wife just trying to ends meet, you’ve got a problem. Where do you find the cash to fund this little boondoggle?
Also, what be the source of energy used to power your new electric stove? Coal? Natural gas? Nuclear energy? The latter would make sense but the same people who want to ban gas ranges oppose nuclear energy.
Exactly. Ironically, those researchers made sure to throw in the inequality issue in the gas stove narrative, too, saying asthma was more prevalent among Black Americans. Didn't say they used more gas stoves, though, perhaps it was to be assumed.
Comrade Steve Morris lives 3 hours north from where I live, Little Moscow on the Columbia, while I have lived in the same house for 30 years using electric baseboards for heating and an electric stove, I converted to Natural Gas last year. The Gas company piped the gas to my house for free, but I had to use Gas as my main source of heat. I had new furnace, A/C and ducting installed There is no comparison on how superior Gas heating and cooling warms and cools my house at half the price of electric, . Cooking on Gas is a game changer as well. My Zline Gas Stove is Restaurant quality and has a automatic downdraft vent and the Gas has auto shutoff.. They say History Repeats itself, do you feel the cold breeze from the east coming down through the gorge making waves on the mighty Columbia river to Little Moscow? It gives ME The Dickens, It was the Best of Times, It was the worst of Times, I Need my Gas stove and to cook on it too, he who makes the first fire to stay warm ask WHY do They think alternative energy doesn't come with a price?
It does repeat itself, first as a tragedy, the second time as a farce. At least it will be, um, funny? I know it wouldn't, though, it would just be stressful and unpleasant. But there's always hope for a changing tide if enough people decide they've had enough and refuse to keep buying the narrative.
Irina, Thanks for the forum/opportunity to pontificate on the sinister direction in which global politics are moving. We have a gas stove, gas grill, and gas heat, etc., at our home and may soon install a gas emergency generator. We like natural gas.
Comments herein pretty much sum up my thoughts with particular appreciation for SmithFS' comments to which I would like to further say the push back to initiatives like 'banning gas stoves' is growing each day; which is a good thing but we must figure out a way to reverse the 'transition mentality' which generally accepts that it must happen or the planet dies. That notion is based on political science (not real science!) and on government self-interest and perpetuation.
The transition mentality will reverse itself once the blackouts begin. Only it will be too late then, in a dystopian worst-case scenario because most will be conditioned that blackouts are normal and desirable to save the planet. In a realistic scenario, look at Europe. Nobody's complaining about the warm winter, when under any other circumstances there would've been wails to high heaven that we're all going to die because of climate change.
In May of 2021 the Texas Governor signed a bill forbidding cities from banning natural gas a fuel source. (House Bill 17). Publicly, it was promoted as a response to the 2021 Feb. storms.
I am very happy to discover this, because I had already read that Austin's idiot City Council attempted to ban gas in new construction and phase out its use for all others. I was hoping the state would step in and protect me as they have in other cases (made plastic bag bans illegal, e.g.).
But it turns out the state already has. I don't have to worry about that any more unless action comes at a federal level that overrides the state action.
This gas appliance attack is clearly a political lobbying move and not a scientific revelation. Look at the coordinated releases, stories, and government commentary. Someone put a bunch of money into coordinated effort.
Add in that the lead author is from the Rocky Mountain Institute, which is a lobbying organization, not a scientific institute, the study is not a study at all, but a "meta-study" in which cherry picking the papers included steers the results and finally the RMI lies.. That's their job.
I don't know what hte motivation is. It makes no sense as a CO2 reducer as long as so much of our electricity is powered by natural gas. No sense in burning gas remotely, inefficiently turning it into electricity and then using it to conduct work locally, when you could just burn the gas locally and use the result directly without the inefficiencies.
Now if Texas would just stop subsidizing wind energy and build some more nuclear plants, I'd start to feel somewhat secure.
I'll believe that US federal agency as soon as Joe Biden and all the other US federal departments/agencies no longer have their food cooked on gas ranges/stoves.
There are 1000s of greater environmental priorities to me than replacing gas stoves with electric. Seems like the main downside to me of a gas stove is that not all of the embedded energy in the gas goes into heating the food (maybe 40-55%) with most of the remainder actually heating the surrounding air instead (not necessarily a bad thing in winter), although otherwise is wasted energy. A modern electric induction cooktop is way more efficient (maybe 85-90%).
The problem is the process of generating electricity also wastes a lot of energy. A coal plant might only convert about a third of the energy in the coal to electricity, before you factor in transmission loss. Even if you are running the most modern and efficient combined cycle gas powerplant in the world (which basically no countries are), then maybe you are getting low 60s% efficiency in converting the gas to electricity (again before transmission loss).
If you look at it holistically, in most countries there is negligible benefit to replacing gas stoves with electric. In a number of places (basically any county with coal on their grid or inefficient gas power stations), there would actually be a negative environmental and energy efficiency impact.
I'm a huge fan of gas for stovetop cooking especially since I use cast iron and woks. Baking, not so much but I don't do a lot of baking anyways. I'm far more concerned about smoke from the food itself and the when I use oils to cook than the natural gas itself. But that's what hoods are for.
You know what else? Gas stoves look great, even in a mediocre kitchen with outdated cabinets. The flame is beautiful too.
We also drink a lot of hot beverages whether that be tea or pour-over coffee and use an electric water kettle with temperature control for that. That works a lot better for our use than a standard tea kettle.
Gas is/will be handy during power outages. Friends and family in Texas during the 2021 winter storm were without power for three days but were able to use their stove to cook and to heat up water.
My city has probably the strictest ban though which was enacted before the statewide ban. Even if your gas appliances still work by 2035, the city is demanding they be switched out for electric.
I haven't got any experience with induction stoves. I've heard they heat things up more quickly than plain electric ones and that's certainly important.
the thing I love about them most isn't the speed, but that the plate isn't hot. If I spill something (which I do a lot), I can just wipe it off, lifting the pot. Won't burn like a simple electric.
First, I just took it to camping (glamping, really...there was electricity and all mod cons...), then I got myself a real one.
And to be clear, I'm not advocating for others to pick induction, gas or any of the other cooking solutions. It literally has to match personal taste. I like mine, that's all.
This is like the green pledges to produce no more internal combustion engine vehicles by 2035, and to stop lending money to car buyers unless they want an EV. Maybe they can't enter our homes and remove our stoves, but they can cut off the power supply upstream, force appliance makers to stop selling gas stoves, and - as many have noted - force builders to go all-electric on new construction. Everyone knows it's pointless and punitive, but how do you wade through all the bureaucracy to put an end to this tyranny? Apparently our DC politicians are helpless. Bravo to Gov. Abbott in TX for jumping into the fray and saying "No way!"
It really is difficult to fight it especially if there's no reasonable politicians to vote for but since this approach to the transition is inevitably doomed to failure it will be fascinating to watch.
Always gas. Much more effective. Imagine a world where we chase down risk so much that we think getting rid of a gas cooker is the next thing on the list. We must have already stopped driving, going out, going down stairs, undertaking DIY, BLAH BLAH BLAH. 2023 starts with even more madness!
My wife and I completed a kitched renovation in November of 2021. Part of that renovation was switching our electric range to gas, which was already piped into our home for HVAC and water heating.
We are far from cooking-with-gas neophites, as we've owned RV's for decades, but from our first meal on this new stove, we were hooked!
THe advantages are numerous, and he health concerns zero from where I sit, as again we've cooked with propane inside the confines of an RV forever, with not "asthma" among any of us.
This is simply another attempt at a power-grab, and one that I can tell you that folks here in the US will simply not stand for. I was afraid my fellow countrymen would just roll over a la COVID, but I'm glad I was wrong about that.
Bumbling Joe's EPA now seems to be on the retreat from this dumb idea, but it surely won't be their last attempt to put us all on electricity, so they can then pull the plug on us plebes when we misbehave.
I'd be curious to know how many commenters have cooked on both induction and gas.
I wanted to upgrade to induction for all of the benefits mentioned by other commenters (faster heating time, easier cooktop cleanup, no excess heat in the room), but I wasn't able to do so due to apartment building rules.
Many buildings did not sub-meter (individually bill) apartments for their electricity usage, so electric ranges and similar appliances were forbidden under these buildings' "house rules". Others were afraid of fires, though induction would alleviate such concerns. These rules have remained in effect even after sub-metering has been put in place.
Another complicating factor is a building's power supply. Some buildings do not have sufficient capacity to allow for electric ranges in apartments; upgrading the building's power supply is a more complicated endeavor.
I live in a small suburban soviet next to the greater Soviet of Seattle, State of Washington USA. Seattle already bans gas and other fossil fuels in new buildings.
https://www.kuow.org/stories/seattle-bans-natural-gas-in-new-buildings
I will cling to my gas stove. One advantage of gas cooking is that it works when the power is out. Power outages here are caused primarily by trees which are a Protected Species. Protected by the same crowd that bans gas stoves.
It's also more efficient because everything cooks faster.
It's the USSA or Unites States of Soviet America.
I have cooked with gas all my life. As long as you have a good stove hood for venting, what’s the issue? This is simply another attack by the greens/woke on fossil fuels and just another wedge of government coming into our homes and dictating how to live our lives. No doubt they are coming for dishwashers next. And so forget about having a fireplace.
Exactly.
There is no issue. These same people have been forcing us to take dangerous gene therapy injections that have caused excess deaths to spike 40% above normal in young and healthy populations end of 2022. This is all about preventing grid defection with their enforced wind & solar grid being so expensive and unreliable.
I wish I had a gas stove. Better heat distribution in the pan.
All professional kitchens use gas stoves and there's no asthma epidemic among chefs and their staff. Makes one think.
This is the other thing a lot of people are missing in this whole discussion RE shifting everything to all electric. How will restaurants handle this "transition?" At least here in the US, electric grills, griddles, fryers, are not terribly common. There's a large used and new market for gas-powered ones. If/when comparable electric products arrive the costs for restaurant owners will be immense. Restaurants are already run on thin margins and restaurants employ a lot of employees.
Just another tactic in the tiresome campaign to demonize oil and gas. I wanted to have a gas stovetop in our house but there was a gas line issue and we ended up getting an induction cooktop. I have to say that induction is very good as well, and I'm as happy with that as I would have been with gas. But replacing a cracked induction cooktop is a very expensive exercise!
We've got a gas bottle. No gas network in this part of the country. Still, perfectly convenient.
Ironically we were able to hook up our barbeque to our domestic gas line; the builder simply did not install a port for the gas cooktop and by the time we discovered that it was too late to change
I'll hold out to the end...I'll be the Lone Ranger.
You and me both.
There is much more to this stove ban than meets the eye. This ban on Natural Gas services to residential & commercial buildings is well advanced in many jurisdictions in America (i.e. California, Seattle, New York City), in Europe and Australia. This is insidious and devious. The indoor air pollution is just another fake excuse they've made up just as Covid, the Ukraine War and Climate Change were for other nefarious purposes. Don't believe a word these lying cretins say, there is ALWAYS a back story.
You see what this is all about. They are foisting upon us this Malthusian Agenda of a World powered by Wind & Solar, which is impractical, horrendously expensive and will result in extreme deprivation, including inability for the Middle Class to afford a home. But these cretins face a dilemma. There is a solution for home owners. An NG powered small home CHP generator of ~2kwe output, which could be ICE or Fuel Cell, with a small 5-10kwh battery pack, 25kw inverter, and would supply all home electricity, heat & hot water. Quite economical now with battery prices having fallen. There are similar larger units for commercial buildings/business, i.e. Bloom Boxes. Which are growing in popularity already.
So what will you see in their Dystopian future. Extreme high electricity prices, constant power shortages, blackouts, forced rationing, no power for BEVs (i.e. no travel allowed), no air conditioning, hot water or heat by edict. Just pushing the population to live in pods in their Great Reset, "you will own nothing" game plan. All suburban areas and buildings owned by the inherited wealth Aristocracy. What they can't allow is Grid Defection. People will want to opt out of the Power Grid with their natural gas connection. So that just can't be allowed. The underlying motive for this is SINISTER. Believe it.
As usual these nonsensical proposals will hurt the poorest amongst us the most. If you’re a government employee with a cushy job, you’ll swap out your gas range for an electric one. No problem, even if it wouldn’t be your preference. But it you’re some poor bloke and his wife just trying to ends meet, you’ve got a problem. Where do you find the cash to fund this little boondoggle?
Also, what be the source of energy used to power your new electric stove? Coal? Natural gas? Nuclear energy? The latter would make sense but the same people who want to ban gas ranges oppose nuclear energy.
Exactly. Ironically, those researchers made sure to throw in the inequality issue in the gas stove narrative, too, saying asthma was more prevalent among Black Americans. Didn't say they used more gas stoves, though, perhaps it was to be assumed.
Comrade Steve Morris lives 3 hours north from where I live, Little Moscow on the Columbia, while I have lived in the same house for 30 years using electric baseboards for heating and an electric stove, I converted to Natural Gas last year. The Gas company piped the gas to my house for free, but I had to use Gas as my main source of heat. I had new furnace, A/C and ducting installed There is no comparison on how superior Gas heating and cooling warms and cools my house at half the price of electric, . Cooking on Gas is a game changer as well. My Zline Gas Stove is Restaurant quality and has a automatic downdraft vent and the Gas has auto shutoff.. They say History Repeats itself, do you feel the cold breeze from the east coming down through the gorge making waves on the mighty Columbia river to Little Moscow? It gives ME The Dickens, It was the Best of Times, It was the worst of Times, I Need my Gas stove and to cook on it too, he who makes the first fire to stay warm ask WHY do They think alternative energy doesn't come with a price?
It does repeat itself, first as a tragedy, the second time as a farce. At least it will be, um, funny? I know it wouldn't, though, it would just be stressful and unpleasant. But there's always hope for a changing tide if enough people decide they've had enough and refuse to keep buying the narrative.
Irina, Thanks for the forum/opportunity to pontificate on the sinister direction in which global politics are moving. We have a gas stove, gas grill, and gas heat, etc., at our home and may soon install a gas emergency generator. We like natural gas.
Comments herein pretty much sum up my thoughts with particular appreciation for SmithFS' comments to which I would like to further say the push back to initiatives like 'banning gas stoves' is growing each day; which is a good thing but we must figure out a way to reverse the 'transition mentality' which generally accepts that it must happen or the planet dies. That notion is based on political science (not real science!) and on government self-interest and perpetuation.
The transition mentality will reverse itself once the blackouts begin. Only it will be too late then, in a dystopian worst-case scenario because most will be conditioned that blackouts are normal and desirable to save the planet. In a realistic scenario, look at Europe. Nobody's complaining about the warm winter, when under any other circumstances there would've been wails to high heaven that we're all going to die because of climate change.
To quote Joe Manchin you will have to pry my gas stove, fireplaces and furnace out of my cold dead hands.
In May of 2021 the Texas Governor signed a bill forbidding cities from banning natural gas a fuel source. (House Bill 17). Publicly, it was promoted as a response to the 2021 Feb. storms.
I am very happy to discover this, because I had already read that Austin's idiot City Council attempted to ban gas in new construction and phase out its use for all others. I was hoping the state would step in and protect me as they have in other cases (made plastic bag bans illegal, e.g.).
But it turns out the state already has. I don't have to worry about that any more unless action comes at a federal level that overrides the state action.
This gas appliance attack is clearly a political lobbying move and not a scientific revelation. Look at the coordinated releases, stories, and government commentary. Someone put a bunch of money into coordinated effort.
Add in that the lead author is from the Rocky Mountain Institute, which is a lobbying organization, not a scientific institute, the study is not a study at all, but a "meta-study" in which cherry picking the papers included steers the results and finally the RMI lies.. That's their job.
I don't know what hte motivation is. It makes no sense as a CO2 reducer as long as so much of our electricity is powered by natural gas. No sense in burning gas remotely, inefficiently turning it into electricity and then using it to conduct work locally, when you could just burn the gas locally and use the result directly without the inefficiencies.
Now if Texas would just stop subsidizing wind energy and build some more nuclear plants, I'd start to feel somewhat secure.
It's a little pathetic how obviously biased the study was, to be honest. And so obviously an orchestrated move that the backlash was immediate.
But is the backlash in the public eye, or just in the view of those of us paying attemtion? I don't have enough regular media exposure to know.
Oh, forgot to add this link to Alex Epstein's take on the action:
https://alexepstein.substack.com/p/calls-to-ban-gas-stoves-are-anti?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=513601&post_id=96459290&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
I'll believe that US federal agency as soon as Joe Biden and all the other US federal departments/agencies no longer have their food cooked on gas ranges/stoves.
There are 1000s of greater environmental priorities to me than replacing gas stoves with electric. Seems like the main downside to me of a gas stove is that not all of the embedded energy in the gas goes into heating the food (maybe 40-55%) with most of the remainder actually heating the surrounding air instead (not necessarily a bad thing in winter), although otherwise is wasted energy. A modern electric induction cooktop is way more efficient (maybe 85-90%).
The problem is the process of generating electricity also wastes a lot of energy. A coal plant might only convert about a third of the energy in the coal to electricity, before you factor in transmission loss. Even if you are running the most modern and efficient combined cycle gas powerplant in the world (which basically no countries are), then maybe you are getting low 60s% efficiency in converting the gas to electricity (again before transmission loss).
If you look at it holistically, in most countries there is negligible benefit to replacing gas stoves with electric. In a number of places (basically any county with coal on their grid or inefficient gas power stations), there would actually be a negative environmental and energy efficiency impact.
Excellent points, thank you!
I'm a huge fan of gas for stovetop cooking especially since I use cast iron and woks. Baking, not so much but I don't do a lot of baking anyways. I'm far more concerned about smoke from the food itself and the when I use oils to cook than the natural gas itself. But that's what hoods are for.
You know what else? Gas stoves look great, even in a mediocre kitchen with outdated cabinets. The flame is beautiful too.
We also drink a lot of hot beverages whether that be tea or pour-over coffee and use an electric water kettle with temperature control for that. That works a lot better for our use than a standard tea kettle.
Gas is/will be handy during power outages. Friends and family in Texas during the 2021 winter storm were without power for three days but were able to use their stove to cook and to heat up water.
My city has probably the strictest ban though which was enacted before the statewide ban. Even if your gas appliances still work by 2035, the city is demanding they be switched out for electric.
https://greenleapforward.substack.com/p/lets-go-ban-it
My stove has gas burners and an electric oven. For baking, I'd rather stick with electricity. Old habits and all that.
Induction here. I know it creates a single point of failure (no electricity - no hot water at all…), but the convenience of it…
I haven't got any experience with induction stoves. I've heard they heat things up more quickly than plain electric ones and that's certainly important.
the thing I love about them most isn't the speed, but that the plate isn't hot. If I spill something (which I do a lot), I can just wipe it off, lifting the pot. Won't burn like a simple electric.
Yeah, that's important for me :)
Oh, I LIKE this. I'm a messy cook, too. Unfortunately, I'm also really good at breaking things and I've heard induction tops are breakable.
Believe me, I tried to break it (unintentionally). Still in one piece ;)
By the way, this was my gateway drug to induction heaven: https://www.ikea.com/be/fr/p/tillreda-plaque-de-cuisson-induction-mobile-1-zone-blanc-10486794/
First, I just took it to camping (glamping, really...there was electricity and all mod cons...), then I got myself a real one.
And to be clear, I'm not advocating for others to pick induction, gas or any of the other cooking solutions. It literally has to match personal taste. I like mine, that's all.
Sounds great. I guess I've watched too many kitchen-fail threads. :)
Going back to gas from induction is intolerable... water takes FOREVER to boil on gas and the whole kitchen gets hot.
But gas is awesome for iron cookware and wok cooking! So I have a backup butane canister camping stove that I use for that.
CRAZY IDEA: let people decide what they want?
They'll have to take my gas cooktop from my cold dead hands!
This is like the green pledges to produce no more internal combustion engine vehicles by 2035, and to stop lending money to car buyers unless they want an EV. Maybe they can't enter our homes and remove our stoves, but they can cut off the power supply upstream, force appliance makers to stop selling gas stoves, and - as many have noted - force builders to go all-electric on new construction. Everyone knows it's pointless and punitive, but how do you wade through all the bureaucracy to put an end to this tyranny? Apparently our DC politicians are helpless. Bravo to Gov. Abbott in TX for jumping into the fray and saying "No way!"
It really is difficult to fight it especially if there's no reasonable politicians to vote for but since this approach to the transition is inevitably doomed to failure it will be fascinating to watch.
Always gas. Much more effective. Imagine a world where we chase down risk so much that we think getting rid of a gas cooker is the next thing on the list. We must have already stopped driving, going out, going down stairs, undertaking DIY, BLAH BLAH BLAH. 2023 starts with even more madness!
Well it has a high bar in the face of 2022, so... :D
asian families especially east asian love gas ! I cannot see Asia giving up on gas cooking
Is it because of the cuisine? What a great point. Also, great cuisine.
Yes, precisely the cuisine.https://greenleapforward.substack.com/p/the-racism-of-natural-gas-bans
My wife and I completed a kitched renovation in November of 2021. Part of that renovation was switching our electric range to gas, which was already piped into our home for HVAC and water heating.
We are far from cooking-with-gas neophites, as we've owned RV's for decades, but from our first meal on this new stove, we were hooked!
THe advantages are numerous, and he health concerns zero from where I sit, as again we've cooked with propane inside the confines of an RV forever, with not "asthma" among any of us.
This is simply another attempt at a power-grab, and one that I can tell you that folks here in the US will simply not stand for. I was afraid my fellow countrymen would just roll over a la COVID, but I'm glad I was wrong about that.
Bumbling Joe's EPA now seems to be on the retreat from this dumb idea, but it surely won't be their last attempt to put us all on electricity, so they can then pull the plug on us plebes when we misbehave.
Yes, the push back was impressive.
How about mandating proper ventilation?
I'd be curious to know how many commenters have cooked on both induction and gas.
I wanted to upgrade to induction for all of the benefits mentioned by other commenters (faster heating time, easier cooktop cleanup, no excess heat in the room), but I wasn't able to do so due to apartment building rules.
Good point. I've always been fascinated by American apartment building rules. What rules could induction stoves possibly violate?
Many buildings did not sub-meter (individually bill) apartments for their electricity usage, so electric ranges and similar appliances were forbidden under these buildings' "house rules". Others were afraid of fires, though induction would alleviate such concerns. These rules have remained in effect even after sub-metering has been put in place.
Another complicating factor is a building's power supply. Some buildings do not have sufficient capacity to allow for electric ranges in apartments; upgrading the building's power supply is a more complicated endeavor.
Thank you, this was really informative.